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#1 Klein

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

It's like having rearm + essence (from destroyer)

 

How to actually counter it?



#2 ResQ

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:41 AM

It takes quite a long time to set this up, but once again, Rearm is the culprit for all of these unbalances. Rearm will get balanced a little further in the next version(s), so hopefully it'll give enemies even more time to get to the rearmer and silence/stun/kill him.



#3 HiV

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 01:24 AM

Blademail and more than 1 person counters this easily



#4 JDD

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:37 AM

Blademail does nothing against exorcism, and this solution of yours basically applies as a counter to every hero.


I do think that rearm cast time and cooldown should be increased.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 12:23 PM

Blademail does nothing against exorcism, and this solution of yours basically applies as a counter to every hero.

lmfaoooo so true


totally BURNT


#6 dmzipp

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:46 AM

most heroes can just not damage you while blademail is on but you can't turn off exorcism. do you just purposely not learn to counter anything?



#7 Klein

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 05:57 PM

It takes quite a long time to set this up, but once again, Rearm is the culprit for all of these unbalances. Rearm will get balanced a little further in the next version(s), so hopefully it'll give enemies even more time to get to the rearmer and silence/stun/kill him.

 

Thanks for replying.

 

Though I love rearm combos, some of them are not fair in a overall vision. It's not really about the purpose of this topic, but having Finger of Death + Rearm is also pretty unfair (not as Krobelus). I noticed that Finger of Death level 1 bring a burst damage of 600 for 200 mana and a long cooldown. Having Rearm as a second ultimate makes it a 600 instant burst damage for only 200 mana. It isn't worth leveling to 2 for only ~150 more damage and less cooldown (which is no gain when using Rearm) for 420 mana. In my opinion, such things like these scaling factors can build more unbalanced combos. My goal with this observation is to show and suggest working better with scaling (with and without rearm) instead of only nerfing. Again: it's just a suggestion. The continuous improvement of LoD is great and I really apreciate your job.



#8 Exhaustipated

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:59 PM

u just need to keep that in mind, krobelus ulti is a physical attack type

 

there are some different way to encounter that

1.need some good spell caster with ghost scepter to kill him within banish time 

2.good carry with mana break, especially if it has essence shift

3.good tank with reactive armor and taunt + teammates

4.send him to sleep with nightmare (bane 2nd skill) then after he wakes up silence/stun/kill him.(he will sleep about 2/3 of exorcism active time)

5.Sunder (soul keeper ulti) + good carry/spell

 

but more importantly, if u have seen someone has a deadly skill like this, u need to gang him as much as u can to avoid letting him get items



#9 Klein

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:12 PM

u just need to keep that in mind, krobelus ulti is a physical attack type

 

there are some different way to encounter that

1.need some good spell caster with ghost scepter to kill him within banish time 

2.good carry with mana break, especially if it has essence shift

3.good tank with reactive armor and taunt + teammates

4.send him to sleep with nightmare (bane 2nd skill) then after he wakes up silence/stun/kill him.(he will sleep about 2/3 of exorcism active time)

5.Sunder (soul keeper ulti) + good carry/spell

 

but more importantly, if u have seen someone has a deadly skill like this, u need to gang him as much as u can to avoid letting him get items

 

Thanks for the tips.



#10 Burnt

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 01:01 PM

4.send him to sleep with nightmare (bane 2nd skill) then after he wakes up silence/stun/kill him.(he will sleep about 2/3 of exorcism active time)

that's definitely the best strategy cause you put exo spirits to sleep too right?  :D


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#11 Exhaustipated

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Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:40 PM

that's definitely the best strategy cause you put exo spirits to sleep too right?  :D

in this case, damage will be split between all target if they are close to him






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