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#1 STR/PWD

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 07:14 AM

This ability is a fuck. 


#2 Whiteboard

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:27 AM

What seems to be the issue?

 

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#3 Shieldbreaker

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Posted 11 February 2017 - 08:11 PM

Actually, while rarely picked, it does totally screw up chain-casters. By comparison, there is nothing at all to screw up chain attackers.

 

Add an ability that disarms enemies for, say, 1,5 seconds after every attack!



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Posted 11 February 2017 - 09:25 PM

This is a game mechanic known as "Silence".

 - It is currently working as intended.

 

As for your suggestion, open a new thread for making suggestions on adding more "Disarm" abilities.

 

Personally, one that disables all attacks for 1.5s per strike made just sounds game breaking.

 - If so: This ability has a buff duration.

 

Otherwise for your gameplay needs you can use spells like "Drunken Haze", "Incapacitating Bite", Evasion abilities (Blur and Drunken Brawler) to counter attacking heroes.

 

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#5 Shieldbreaker

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 01:25 AM

There are 2 good spells to try and somewhat limit carries - laser (countered by bkb and mkb, all dispells, bt (the super popular glass carry ultimate), and decreptify.

 

All of the abilities you listed are useless vs carries past early game. Which you will lose if you take them.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:33 PM

Actually, while rarely picked, it does totally screw up chain-casters. By comparison, there is nothing at all to screw up chain attackers.

 

Add an ability that disarms enemies for, say, 1,5 seconds after every attack!

lol terrible analogy... One spell can do 300 damage 7 min into game. Attacks can not

 

But last word is indeed pretty annoying to casters. In some platforms it's banned


totally BURNT


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Posted 14 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

This whole thread is dumb.

 

Sorry for taking this seriously.

 

No changes will be made to Last word.

 

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#8 Vordik / Captain_Elk

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Posted 14 February 2017 - 11:43 PM

Crabe's Last Word works not correctly now as all other after-cast abilities: Fiery Soul, Static Field (fck it) and others

Reason: all of it procs from some new artifacts (Battle Fury, HoD, Guard's greaves etc.).

that's really problem when you uses greaves to remove silence and take silence from LW. It should't work so.

 

In our closed games LW is in AB list for long time now because it really crashes games. But it's our problem :) we've 14 "imbalanced" or bugged abilities in AB now (at six skills + 3ls) but this theme is not for this topic.

 

П.с. всем спасибо, 2 абзаца английского вымотали(



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:24 AM

Crabe's Last Word works not correctly now as all other after-cast abilities: Fiery Soul, Static Field (fck it) and others

Reason: all of it procs from some new artifacts (Battle Fury, HoD, Guard's greaves etc.).

that's really problem when you uses greaves to remove silence and take silence from LW. It should't work so.

 

In our closed games LW is in AB list for long time now because it really crashes games. But it's our problem :) we've 14 "imbalanced" or bugged abilities in AB now (at six skills + 3ls) but this theme is not for this topic.

 

П.с. всем спасибо, 2 абзаца английского вымотали(

 

What version are you palying?

 

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#10 Vordik / Captain_Elk

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 06:59 PM

6.85i of course.

We can make a list of all known bugs in one theme... if needed.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 08:07 PM

6.85i of course.

We can make a list of all known bugs in one theme... if needed.

 

What wc3 patch are you using?

 

As for the bug list, go ahead: http://legendsofdota.../8-bug-reports/



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 02:51 AM

What wc3 patch are you using?

 

As for the bug list, go ahead: http://legendsofdota.../8-bug-reports/

1.26Р° РІСЂРѕРґРµ

Some later. Thx.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:38 AM

Personally, I'm having a slight difficulty interpitating your posts Captain_Elk.

 

Mostly because my cognitive thinking has been suffering lately due to life events and circumstances.

 

I'd appreciate it if you took your time from now on with future posts to formulate yourself properly.

 

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I have a hard time understanding in general what your post is all about on this thread, please clarify.

 

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#14 STR/PWD

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 05:58 AM

fix  last word, It's very annoying in a team fight 



#15 HiV

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Posted 21 February 2017 - 08:41 PM

bkb counters last word. Last word counters perma stun and mc. Nothing broken there....



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Posted 23 February 2017 - 04:55 PM

Actually, I agree to some degree and would like to see it changed.

It requires nothing but your presence and in return you screw up every caster in a range.

Gives too much for very little effort / investment.

 

My suggestion would be to change it into active spell, once activated it turns into aura (as it is now) that has:

- 900 AOE

- duration of X seconds

- CD of X seconds

- X mana cost.



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Posted 24 February 2017 - 10:35 PM

Actually, I agree to some degree and would like to see it changed.

It requires nothing but your presence and in return you screw up every caster in a range.

Gives too much for very little effort / investment.

 

My suggestion would be to change it into active spell, once activated it turns into aura (as it is now) that has:

- 900 AOE

- duration of X seconds

- CD of X seconds

- X mana cost.

 

Or casters can get BKB.
Or outrange the AoE.

 

No changes should be made to Last Word aura.

 

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#18 Shieldbreaker

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Posted 25 February 2017 - 02:19 AM

Agreed, so long as a new aura that screws all attackers without bkb/over 900 range is added.



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Posted 28 February 2017 - 03:01 PM

Agreed, so long as a new aura that screws all attackers without bkb/over 900 range is added.

 

Put that in a new thread and it can be discussed there.

 

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