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#1 Entrails

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 05:47 PM

how the hell would you counter kraken shell with bloodbath and dispersion (don't tell me silver's edge, not all games goes as plan and you don't have doom in tavern every game) kraken shell dispels all of my spells ( was support with shakles, vortex, amp dmg, and winter's curse ) even dust. ffs game got stomped with 3 haunts. hero with kraken shell draft almost never dies due to escaping with dispels on negative buff and healing with bloodbath.

 

TL;DR: Kraken Shell dispels everything negative and you can escape through invis if ur tanky enough

I can deal with damage reduction but the dispels are giving me cancer at crucial times.



#2 Jiminy_Cricket

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:03 PM

Ya I that this needed nerfed a while ago.

level 3 needs to be the new level 4.

ww from BH needs to move in the direction of silver edge.



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 07:12 PM

Ya I that this needed nerfed a while ago.

level 3 needs to be the new level 4.

ww from BH needs to move in the direction of silver edge.

I suggest removing the dispel and making the skill reduce physical dmg by 9/18/27/36, and reducing negative buff duration by 20% (I was thinking of magic resistance but I thought there's already alot of magic resistance skills)



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:51 PM

how the hell would you counter kraken shell with bloodbath and dispersion (don't tell me silver's edge, not all games goes as plan and you don't have doom in tavern every game) kraken shell dispels all of my spells ( was support with shakles, vortex, amp dmg, and winter's curse ) even dust. ffs game got stomped with 3 haunts. hero with kraken shell draft almost never dies due to escaping with dispels on negative buff and healing with bloodbath.

 

TL;DR: Kraken Shell dispels everything negative and you can escape through invis if ur tanky enough

I can deal with damage reduction but the dispels are giving me cancer at crucial times.

kraken shell bloodbath and dispersion are indeed a good combos and if may i ask,  which mode did you used to play the game ?



#5 Jiminy_Cricket

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 12:07 AM

True the dispel is what makes it op the most.   

We play 6 skill.



#6 Entrails

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 04:28 AM

kraken shell bloodbath and dispersion are indeed a good combos and if may i ask,  which mode did you used to play the game ?

6 skill, pair it with haunt and duel. and you can just farm heroes mid game



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 05:42 AM

Iceblast

Boosted Poison Nova

Lifesteal carry

 

It's a crappy broken mode.


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Posted 23 July 2016 - 06:35 AM

Iceblast

Boosted Poison Nova

Lifesteal carry

 

It's a crappy broken mode.

no point in iceblast if hero barely even reached 25% hp

does boosted poison nova stop blood bath?

disperse bm and duel itself would counter that



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 03:40 PM

Iceblast + Boost Nova prevents healing.

 

And then you can take the rout of outhealing him.


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#10 Entrails

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 05:08 AM

Iceblast + Boost Nova prevents healing.

 

And then you can take the rout of outhealing him.

kraken dispels everything negative right...



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 01:05 PM

Kraken even though LEVEL 1 is so imba with neutral creeps and lane creeps, no damage at all



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 01:43 PM

kraken shell + bloodbath + dispersion + duel + haunt = 0 dmg

 

Casters usually have escapes, carries build lifesteal, don't even mention tanks...

 

Can you even kill during duels? lol


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 03:09 PM

kraken shell + bloodbath + dispersion + duel + haunt = 0 dmg

 

Casters usually have escapes, carries build lifesteal, don't even mention tanks...

 

Can you even kill during duels? lol

well the person with that build got 2 other buddies with haunt. so yeah, 350 dmg in 40 mins?



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Posted 25 July 2016 - 04:14 PM

So a game in which you got raped by 3 haunts made you here to ask for a nerf on kraken?


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#15 Jiminy_Cricket

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:33 AM

Dude kraken is op now.  That dispel is insane on tanks.  I pick kraken whenever i see it.  You could remove the dispel properties and it would still be very much worth picking.  I think the dispell properties should be moved to a different defensive passive that never gets picked.  



#16 Entrails

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 04:09 AM

So a game in which you got raped by 3 haunts made you here to ask for a nerf on kraken?

the problem is, it dispels all of my spells and dust. so with enough damage taken, he always escapes using invi. I had amp dmg that time...



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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:39 PM

However kraken is the only spell that counters amplify dmg right?


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#18 Entrails

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 03:16 AM

However kraken is the only spell that counters amplify dmg right?

I don't have a problem with dispelling amplify dmg since amp dmg itself is op on the long run, but dispelling dust is just plain bad. can't carry gem since enemy too buffed.



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:02 PM

Kraken Shell can be killed easily with very high damage (etc Ult Tiny + Ult Sven). But with Cheat Death, you become unkillable.



#20 Jiminy_Cricket

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 06:05 PM

Ive seen super tanks with morph/kraken/dispersion/rein/return/bt push racks 5v1.  The dispel is what allows it to just keep going.  It's broke or something.

Cheat death is useful?  I always thought it sucked.






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