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#1 Djargoo

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

Yoooooo

 

I try to be useful and want to discuss the new improved skills 

 

Freezing Field buffs:
-- CD from 150/120/90 to 90/80/70s
-- MPcost from 200/400/600 to 150/200/250
-- Duration from 7s to 4s. (still deals the same damage overall, just quicker)
-- Agha upgrade: Caster is now magic immune while casting Freezing Field
 
 SK Epicenter buffs:
-- MPcost from 175/250/325 to 125/175/225
-- CD from 140/120/100 to 100/90/80
-- cast time from 2s to 1.5s
-- AS/MS slow from 30% to 50%
 
Craggy Exterior buffs:
-- is now global, no more 300 range restriction
-- damage from 25/35/45/55 to 50/75/100/125
-- procchance from 10/15/20/25% to 25%
 
Scorched Earth buffs:
-- CD from 60/55/50/45s to 28s
-- now also slows affected units MS by 15%
 
Howl buffs:
-- CD from 35s to 20s
 
Earthshock (Ursa) buffs:
-- damage from 90/140/190/240 to 100/160/220/280
 
Wave of Terror buffs:
-- damage from 30/50/70/90 to 125/150/175/200
-- CD from 15 to 12s
 
Shuriken Toss buffs:
-- now also jumps onto 0/1/2/3 random enemies in a 400 aoe around the initial target
-- damage rescaled from 100/200/250/325 to 125/175/250/325
 
Blood Bath buffs:
-- now also adds 10/20/30/40 AS & 5/10/15/20 damage for 3 seconds after you lasthit any creep, double values for hero-lasthits and lasts 15 seconds
-- same as with HPgain in 6.80, you gain the full bonus when you are in 325 aoe of a hero dying
-- does not stack, only refreshes duration
 
Adaptive Strike buffs:
-- now deals your main stat as 60/80/100/120 + 1.25/1.5/1.75/2x mainstat as damage and stuns for 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8s
-- knockback always 250 units
 
Conjure Image buffs:
-- now passively gives Zeal (pre-6.75, HPreg is nerfed a bit), adds 20/30/40/50 AS and 1.5/2/2.5/3 HPreg
 
Spectral Dagger buffs:
-- MPcost from 130/140/150/160 to 100/110/120/130
-- CD from 16 to 15/14/13/12s
-- damage from 50/100/150/200 to 100/150/200/250
-- AoE from 125 to 140
 
Desolate buffs:
-- AoE from 350 to 275
-- damage from 20/35/50/65 to 30/50/70/90
 
Venomous Gale buffs:
-- CD from 22 to 16s
 
Poof buffs:
-- damage from 80/100/120/140 to 120/160/200/240
 
Geostrike buffs:
-- AS/MS slow from 5/10/15/20% to 15/20/25/30%
 
Earthbind buffs:
-- AoE from 220 to 300
-- Castrange from 600/750/1000/1250 to 700/900/1100/1300
-- now also deals 50/75/100/125 damage to targets hit
-- CD from 11/10/9/8s to 9/8/7/6s
 
Magnetic Field buffs:
-- CD from 50 to 50/45/40/35
 
Spark Wraith buffs:
-- Spark MS from 400 to 425
 
Crystal Nova buffs:
-- MPcost from 100/120/140/160 to 100/110/120/130
-- CD from 15s to 10s
 
Waning Rift buffs:
-- CD from 16s to 12s
 
Test of Faith (Damage spell) buffs:
-- MPcost from 175 to 140
-- Cast Range from 600 to 700
-- CD from 24 to 11s
-- damage:
-- Level 1: 50-100 to 75-150
-- Level 2: 100-200 to 125-200
-- Level 3: 150-300 to 225-300
-- Level 4: 200-400 to 275-400
 
Mana Leak buffs:
-- CD from 16 to 16/15/14/13s
 
Curse of the Silent buffs:
-- Now also slows affected targets by 20% for the same duration as damage (until targets cast spells)
 
Electric Vortex buffs:
-- CD from 21/20/19/18 to 16/15/14/13s
-- Cast Range from 300 to 400
-- duration from 1/1.5/2/2.5s to 1.5/2/2.5/3s
-- selfslow removed
 
Ignite buffs:
-- CD from 15 to 13s
-- DPS from 26/34/42/50 to 30/38/46/54
 
Bloodlust buffs:
-- AS from 20/30/40/50 to 30/40/50/60%
-- MS from 10/12/14/16 to 12/14/16/18%
 
Telekinesis buffs:
-- CD from 22 to 14s
 
Reaper's Scythe buffs:
-- Manacost from 175/340/500 to 150/250/350
 
Shadow Word buffs:
-- MPcost from 90/110/130/150 to 80/90/110/130
-- CD from 16 to 13s
-- Cast Range from 500 to 600
-- DPS & heal from 15/25/35/45 to 20/30/40/50
 
Paralyzing Cask buffs:
-- CD from 20/18/16/14 to 12s
-- damage per bounce dealt to heroes increased from 50 to 100
 
Chilling Touch buffs:
-- CD from 50/42/34/26 to 25s
 
Ghost Walk buffs:
-- Selfslow from -30/-20/-10/0% to -30/-10/10/30%
 
EMP buffs:
-- Detonation delay from 3.5/3.1/2.7/2.3 to 2.6 seconds
-- Manaburn from 125/200/275/350 to 125/250/375/500
 
I copied the List from the last changelog http://legendsofdota...-v680c-lod-v5a/
 
- Freezing field is too OP!!! In combo with any blink deadly. The numbers must be fixed
- Test of Faith and Telekinesis got lowered cooldown, very good change. 
- Craggy exterior global range is a bless in early lane farming 
 
game is starting will post more later please share opinions i hope it will help balancing 

 


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#2 sewww

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:45 PM

Freezing  field is kind of  imba right now ,  i like it :D ,  anyway it shoud be rebalanced to : 5.5 \ 5 \ 4.5   seconds duration to do the full damage .
Gondar Windwalk  shoud be boosted to 45 / 90 / 135 / 180    damage bonus
Pit lord ultimate  CD shoud be reduced to 100 / 80 / 60 seconds
Slardar sprint to apply attack speed as well.
Tombstone zombies damage to be boosted + 4/7/10/15
Lycan Wolves to be boosted with 150-200 hp

syllabear summonned bear needs MS boost to 330/360/390/420
Warloc Upheaval CD reduced to 35 seconds
Visage summons improve base dmg from 10 to 15/30/50



#3 Meatmuffin

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:42 AM

Visage summons improve base dmg from 10 to 15/30/50 - too op

Tombstone zombies damage to be boosted + 4/7/10/15 - Tombstone is fine as it is

Slardar sprint to apply attack speed as well. - too op, sprint is fine as it is, especially when you pick it with Barathrum's old aura

I approve of the other buffs though, a skilled player will always pick Clinkz's windwalk over Gondar's, his windwalk needs some buff (not pointing out the damage). And, apart from me, I've rarely seen someone pick Summon Wolves. Even if you buff Dark Rift (Pit Lords ulti) it will still be shit, needs some insane buff, or addition.


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