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#1 Ech0

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:59 PM

Hi, I'm a longtime LoD player. And as you have upgraded the map from 6.74 which was the longoing LoD map before you guys started to work with the updates and all which is pretty great IMO, To keep up with all the normal DotA updates in LoD. I was wondering as after this upgrading, some of the "better" rearm combos got disabled like Rearm+Reincarnation/Chrono/(RainofChaos), will these combos be enabled anymore?

 

On the host I'm playing (chev and what is nowadays OHS i think) we mainly play gamemode of -sds6sofnulboabd3 and i have to say after these updates (6.74) It has been pretty much of 3/5 games Resulting to 1hit/aftershock build purely/somewhat owning the game, i think this is mainly result of the new Last Word not being so effective and the lack of these certain Rearm Combos which gave the gameplay some "cutting edge" really.

 

So i think it would be nice if these combos could be enabled once again since the game isn't THE game anymore...And 1 additional thing what many LoDers miss=Ranged Swipes which would be awesome if they were enabled buggy or not it was fun.

 

So if you guys can implement some of these changes to new version i think a lot of people would be happy with it,(maybe not for Rearm RoC) But if it is possible could this 1 particular combo be locked behind command?)

 

Ech0 appreciates the work you guys have done this far :)

 

 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 01:10 PM

Your shitty game experience is result of this  unbalanced noob mode that u play,  If u want real balance u must play md or mdd2 mode ,  the mode itself is designed to provide the balance in form of mirror  players .I play in Garena bg LOD mostly , cuz in RGC and OHS the people are just deam noobs , in Bg lod dota room we have real pro(by pro i mean we are the best loders in the world) players if someone thinks that he can play LOD good he is wellcome to join us in Garena and  see how actualy nooblike he is when play  on our high level skill games. 
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#3 Ech0

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 01:30 PM

Quite an offensive way to answer but nonetheless... This was not my point and I haven't have shitty game experience as I play LoD for fun and specially NOT for balance/or games of ultimate challenge...No way, its more like after these updates this game mode has lost some of its potentiality and isn't as fun as it used to be on 6.74 and the main cause to this i posted above.

 

And just by the looks of your answer I don't think i want to play with you... Not that i think you are/aren't good but the fact that you are one cocky bastard...Besides those who want balanced/challenging games, they play DotA/DotA2 which is meant to be that way.



#4 ResQ

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 04:43 PM

Your shitty game experience is result of this  unbalanced noob mode that u play,  If u want real balance u must play md or mdd2 mode ,  the mode itself is designed to provide the balance in form of mirror  players .I play in Garena bg LOD mostly , cuz in RGC and OHS the people are just deam noobs , in Bg lod dota room we have real pro(by pro i mean we are the best loders in the world) players if someone thinks that he can play LOD good he is wellcome to join us in Garena and  see how actualy nooblike he is when play  on our high level skill games. 
If anyone wants a challenge  , just send me a PM in Garena :   nick Give_Me_Moree


you probably never really tried the rgc lod room, I play there myself and I have high doubts that garena is any better.

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

in Bg lod dota room we have real pro(by pro i mean we are the best loders in the world)

 

I bow before the mighty professional bulgarian Garena lodders, none can match their might.

 

//sarcasm off

 

Is this for real? :)

 

We'd be more than happy to arrange a face-off between your bulgarians and a LoD room team. Oh but do you actually know how to play a game of balanced LoD without 6 skills? *drumrolls*



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:32 PM

I`ve played 7-10 games in RGC Lod SA and LOD  channel (3 of the games i made 30/0 score and i lost the games cuz of noob teammates) ,   and yes we can play with  5 or 4 skills if u want



#7 Grief-Code

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Posted 15 March 2014 - 01:37 PM

However i agree to Ech0.

We have always an aftershocker or an 1 hitter ingame mainly more aftershocker than 1 hitter.

However for all noobs outta there who are claiming about aftershock: aftershock < 1 hit.

 

I would apperciate if we would have a chance against a one hitter, he can actually kill everyone in 1 second if he wasnt take out or disabled. So yea it would be great.

What i can understand that the typical combo roc+rearm was removed, also f i think it wasnt needed. It was counterable with a 1 hit, and tanks.

Also what i've never understood why was chrono+rearm removed? what is the diffrence of perm chrono against perm ravage? Exactly, nothing.

 

My suggestion is to enable in -bo the chrono+rearm combo and i guess the old last word like it was would be also nice. I really like that this is the latest version of dota, but regarding the option that you are starting to implement fun heros you should not only split from dota by adding new heros, might add and optimize on the same way the skills LoD. And in this case to reinc last word.

 

Also i would also suggest to take care of crashes, i know it can happen unexpected, but i would like more some smaller bugs against full freezes and crashes.

 

At last a small question, is there a plan for arc warden's or meepo's ultimate?

I would love to see it someday :-)



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Posted 15 March 2014 - 05:17 PM

Also what i've never understood why was chrono+rearm removed? what is the diffrence of perm chrono against perm ravage? Exactly, nothing.

The difference is that ravage can be blocked with magic immunity, Repel is a popular counter as well as BKB.
 

(..) and i guess the old last word like it was would be also nice. I really like that this is the latest version of dota, but regarding the option that you are starting to implement fun heros you should not only split from dota by adding new heros, might add and optimize on the same way the skills LoD. And in this case to reinc last word.


Already working on that :)
 

At last a small question, is there a plan for arc warden's or meepo's ultimate?

It's a lot of work to do this without huge bugs. Considering everything, I doubt this will ever come (or it comes really buggy..).

#9 Ech0

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 08:25 AM

Nice to see i'm not the only one who has this oppinion.

 

Old last word would be VERY nice, and ranged swipes +Rearm combos. This was smt that gave the game whole lot of more options to go for making it very much enjoyable.

 

And for Pemr ravage and perm chrono. Magic immune or not. Change ravage to reverse polarity and we have almost the same effect. And my ALL TIME FAVOURITE Rearm Reinc + Suicide now this was FUN

 

And dealing with rearm reinc, whole lot of stuns or silence and manaburn which is buyable. So everything was counterable. Now its just permstun and AS which are also counterable, but the game doesnt give so much choice to it early game if you are missing these combos and enemy has it.



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:20 PM

Since chemical rage has been dramatically improved the hp regen its imo now like this:
chemical rage+borrow time > rearm reinc :-P

But no,one spent yet the time on the most annoying and best rearm combo.

Totem, jinda, teleport, overpower+ time elapse from weaver+rearm.

I never saw somebody using it, but this combo is really better than anything else, if someone of the team has thirst, you can be killed and you can kill all shit. :-D but pssschht ^^

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:05 PM

I bow before the mighty professional bulgarian Garena lodders, none can match their might.

 

//sarcasm off

 

Is this for real? :)

 

We'd be more than happy to arrange a face-off between your bulgarians and a LoD room team. Oh but do you actually know how to play a game of balanced LoD without 6 skills? *drumrolls*

*badum tss* I don't have a problem with skills 5 or 6, a lot of people like to play them, but that's just reflecting how unbalanced they want to be their game. Even saying that someone is the best lodder in the world (in this case bulgarians playing s6 clusterfuck) is just LOW. S4 is the most balanced mode, you can't kill a guy in 2seconds, you need some skill to do that. Don't get me wrong, it is not at all boring. I bet that in a face-off, OHS guys would win in their s6 mode, and RGC LoD guys would win in s4, but that fight would never happen. No reason to hate. Oh and by the way, RGC LoD community (atleast the oldfags) are really awesome. :P


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